Comments on: Freedom isn’t free… it costs $1.05. http://www.brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/ Random Comments About Gaming And Tractors Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:52:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Jaqenn http://www.brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/comment-page-1/#comment-1951 Jaqenn Fri, 14 Apr 2006 18:22:22 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/#comment-1951 That won't go any better for you than it did for Leroy. That won’t go any better for you than it did for Leroy.

]]> By: Amber http://www.brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/comment-page-1/#comment-1950 Amber Thu, 13 Apr 2006 23:17:30 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/#comment-1950 <i>Procedure says they should have a warrant and you shouldn\'e2\'80\'99t waive your constitutioinal rights, but what do you do when folks with guns show up and want your computer?</i><br> <br> Yell "Leeeroy Jenkins!" and charge them? Procedure says they should have a warrant and you shouldn\’e2\’80\’99t waive your constitutioinal rights, but what do you do when folks with guns show up and want your computer?

Yell “Leeeroy Jenkins!” and charge them?

]]> By: Mikyo http://www.brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/comment-page-1/#comment-1949 Mikyo Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:52:38 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/#comment-1949 First they came for the Communists,<br> and I didn\'e2\'80\'99t speak up,<br> because I wasn\'e2\'80\'99t a Communist.<br> Then they came for the Jews,<br> and I didn\'e2\'80\'99t speak up,<br> because I wasn\'e2\'80\'99t a Jew.<br> Then they came for the Catholics,<br> and I didn\'e2\'80\'99t speak up,<br> because I was a Protestant.<br> Then they came for me,<br> and by that time there was no one<br> left to speak up for me.<br> <br> by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945<br> <br> <br> http://www.impeachbush.tv/ First they came for the Communists,
and I didn\’e2\’80\’99t speak up,
because I wasn\’e2\’80\’99t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn\’e2\’80\’99t speak up,
because I wasn\’e2\’80\’99t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn\’e2\’80\’99t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me.

by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945

http://www.impeachbush.tv/

]]> By: Qwerty http://www.brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/comment-page-1/#comment-1948 Qwerty Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:00:56 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/#comment-1948 Just got my computer back from the local Secret Service office. 2 agents showed up at my house with badges and weapons but no warrant. Nice guys, claimed they could get a warrant if I didn't cooperate, but since I was not a suspect or person of interest (yet), they thought they would just ask to image my HD. Seems that my comp was hijacked and used in some illegal transactions although they could not discuss the case with me. So much for firewalls and AV software. They had weapons so they were getting my comp as far as I was concerned. Got my comp taken with no real explanation and got it back with no real explanation. Lord knows what crazy files were on my comp. I don't sell drugs, I don't blackmail, I don't plot the overthrow of the government. They still took my comp and had the chance at looking at all my files, tax returns, etc., which I consider private. Procedure says they should have a warrant and you shouldn't waive your constitutioinal rights, but what do you do when folks with guns show up and want your computer? I can only imagine what they would have done to my house if I had insisted on a warrant. Anyway, I think most folks who give up freedoms willingly are of the "never happen to me persuasion." I didn't do anything wrong, maybe a few Mp3's and a ROM or two, but they still checked me out, and I'm sure they now have a file on me at the SS. Hell, they knew all about me when they showed up and they only thing I can imagine they had to start with was a shared IP address from my ISP. Again, I didn't do anything wrong, but I still felt pretty helpless. And I'm not even a suspect (yet). Just got my computer back from the local Secret Service office. 2 agents showed up at my house with badges and weapons but no warrant. Nice guys, claimed they could get a warrant if I didn’t cooperate, but since I was not a suspect or person of interest (yet), they thought they would just ask to image my HD. Seems that my comp was hijacked and used in some illegal transactions although they could not discuss the case with me. So much for firewalls and AV software. They had weapons so they were getting my comp as far as I was concerned. Got my comp taken with no real explanation and got it back with no real explanation. Lord knows what crazy files were on my comp. I don’t sell drugs, I don’t blackmail, I don’t plot the overthrow of the government. They still took my comp and had the chance at looking at all my files, tax returns, etc., which I consider private. Procedure says they should have a warrant and you shouldn’t waive your constitutioinal rights, but what do you do when folks with guns show up and want your computer? I can only imagine what they would have done to my house if I had insisted on a warrant. Anyway, I think most folks who give up freedoms willingly are of the “never happen to me persuasion.” I didn’t do anything wrong, maybe a few Mp3′s and a ROM or two, but they still checked me out, and I’m sure they now have a file on me at the SS. Hell, they knew all about me when they showed up and they only thing I can imagine they had to start with was a shared IP address from my ISP. Again, I didn’t do anything wrong, but I still felt pretty helpless. And I’m not even a suspect (yet).

]]> By: Syntax Heir http://www.brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/comment-page-1/#comment-1947 Syntax Heir Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:23:55 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/#comment-1947 When people root around in my affairs [or my colon] I get nervous. When I get nervous, I get scared. When motherfuckers get scared, that's when motherfuckers accidentally become terror suspects. When people root around in my affairs [or my colon] I get nervous. When I get nervous, I get scared. When motherfuckers get scared, that’s when motherfuckers accidentally become terror suspects.

]]> By: RedWick http://www.brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/comment-page-1/#comment-1946 RedWick Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:46:34 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/#comment-1946 How about just a simple computer glitch which puts your name on a watch list? Stuff like that has already happened and disrupted the lives of people who don't sell drugs, communicate with terrorists, or plot to overthrow the government. The longer this stuff goes one, there's a greater of a chance of that happening to random people, especially with the sheer amount of data which will get sorted through. Statistically, the odds are in your favor. It'll likely be some other shmoe who gets screwed over. How about just a simple computer glitch which puts your name on a watch list? Stuff like that has already happened and disrupted the lives of people who don’t sell drugs, communicate with terrorists, or plot to overthrow the government. The longer this stuff goes one, there’s a greater of a chance of that happening to random people, especially with the sheer amount of data which will get sorted through. Statistically, the odds are in your favor. It’ll likely be some other shmoe who gets screwed over.

]]> By: =j http://www.brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/comment-page-1/#comment-1945 =j Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:10:46 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/#comment-1945 "they can pull me aside anytime they like and root around in my colon until they\'e2\'80\'99re satisfied ... that\'e2\'80\'99s just fine and dandy with me!"<br> <br> Not that there's any thing wrong with that.<br> <br> Seriously, while the slope is not steep, it is slippery. Indescriminate survailence can easily lead to indescriminate law enforcement. “they can pull me aside anytime they like and root around in my colon until they\’e2\’80\’99re satisfied … that\’e2\’80\’99s just fine and dandy with me!”

Not that there’s any thing wrong with that.

Seriously, while the slope is not steep, it is slippery. Indescriminate survailence can easily lead to indescriminate law enforcement.

]]> By: Ironwood http://www.brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/comment-page-1/#comment-1944 Ironwood Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:37:38 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/#comment-1944 Hmmm. Can I have a Surveillance Octopus ? Hmmm. Can I have a Surveillance Octopus ?

]]> By: MechaCrash http://www.brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/comment-page-1/#comment-1943 MechaCrash Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:24:28 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/#comment-1943 This whole "I have nothing to hide, they can spy on me if they want" thing always comes across to me as someone saying "hey, I don't run drugs, so if the government decides to pass a law saying they can pull me aside anytime they like and root around in my colon until they're satisfied I don't have a kilo of coke up my ass, that's just fine and dandy with me!"<br> <br> Which is a rather extreme way of putting it, but I think it gets the general idea across. This whole “I have nothing to hide, they can spy on me if they want” thing always comes across to me as someone saying “hey, I don’t run drugs, so if the government decides to pass a law saying they can pull me aside anytime they like and root around in my colon until they’re satisfied I don’t have a kilo of coke up my ass, that’s just fine and dandy with me!”

Which is a rather extreme way of putting it, but I think it gets the general idea across.

]]> By: Tom http://www.brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/comment-page-1/#comment-1942 Tom Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:59:48 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/04/12/freedom-isnt-free-it-costs-105/#comment-1942 You mean to say Lum's not an enemy of the state? Damn! I'm outta here! You mean to say Lum’s not an enemy of the state? Damn! I’m outta here!

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