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]]> By: TPRJones http://www.brokentoys.org/2006/06/06/second-life-has-too-many-servers-in-danger-of-eating-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-2794 TPRJones Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:09:20 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/06/06/second-life-has-too-many-servers-in-danger-of-eating-internet/#comment-2794 Holy crap! Okay, I stand corrected.<br> <br> A few months ago a group of us playing SL worked through the math of land use fees -vs- sims up and running and determined they're taking in at least five million a month at a minimum, and probaby a bit more than that since we calculated assuming every sq ft of sim was being paid for at the lowest bulk rates and many are definately not. And that doesn't include the setup fees they charge for complete sims, and those are pretty huge as well (just not recurring).<br> <br> I can't imagine what they're spending all the money on. Holy crap! Okay, I stand corrected.

A few months ago a group of us playing SL worked through the math of land use fees -vs- sims up and running and determined they’re taking in at least five million a month at a minimum, and probaby a bit more than that since we calculated assuming every sq ft of sim was being paid for at the lowest bulk rates and many are definately not. And that doesn’t include the setup fees they charge for complete sims, and those are pretty huge as well (just not recurring).

I can’t imagine what they’re spending all the money on.

]]> By: SirBruce http://www.brokentoys.org/2006/06/06/second-life-has-too-many-servers-in-danger-of-eating-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-2793 SirBruce Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:13:36 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/06/06/second-life-has-too-many-servers-in-danger-of-eating-internet/#comment-2793 According to what I was told at E3, every SL sever is running the in-game physics all the time, even when no one is in that piece of land. So all the hardware is always active all the time. Maybe a physics co-processor from Ageia or ATI would help them out...<br> <br> Bruce According to what I was told at E3, every SL sever is running the in-game physics all the time, even when no one is in that piece of land. So all the hardware is always active all the time. Maybe a physics co-processor from Ageia or ATI would help them out…

Bruce

]]> By: Patrick McKenzie http://www.brokentoys.org/2006/06/06/second-life-has-too-many-servers-in-danger-of-eating-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-2792 Patrick McKenzie Wed, 07 Jun 2006 00:40:01 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2006/06/06/second-life-has-too-many-servers-in-danger-of-eating-internet/#comment-2792 They\'e2\'80\'99ve got more money than they know what to do with over there. I\'e2\'80\'99d bet it\'e2\'80\'99s probably the most profitbale game on the market from a per-player basis by several orders of magnitude. And it ain\'e2\'80\'99t venture cash, Patrick McKenzie, it\'e2\'80\'99s end-user payments from clients. Just for the record.<br> <br> ---<br> <br> Then explain to me why they've yet to turn a single penny of profit? It seems to me that this is probably partially related to enormous capital expenditures which may or may not ever see their total cost recouped. Even if lightning strikes and they do manage to keep every server in operation and every "land owner" subscribed for the year and change it will take to pay the cost of the hardware back, they could have made *more* money in that happy situation by scaling capacity in a more economical manner.<br> <br> http://news.com.com/Second+Life+scores+11+million+in+funding/2100-1043_3-6054598.html?tag=nefd.top They\’e2\’80\’99ve got more money than they know what to do with over there. I\’e2\’80\’99d bet it\’e2\’80\’99s probably the most profitbale game on the market from a per-player basis by several orders of magnitude. And it ain\’e2\’80\’99t venture cash, Patrick McKenzie, it\’e2\’80\’99s end-user payments from clients. Just for the record.

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Then explain to me why they’ve yet to turn a single penny of profit? It seems to me that this is probably partially related to enormous capital expenditures which may or may not ever see their total cost recouped. Even if lightning strikes and they do manage to keep every server in operation and every “land owner” subscribed for the year and change it will take to pay the cost of the hardware back, they could have made *more* money in that happy situation by scaling capacity in a more economical manner.

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