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	<title>Comments on: Next on Hardball: Casuals vs Hardcore; Does Kel&#8217;Thuzad Hate America?</title>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 00:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way I see it, Dibbell was the only one in the &quot;debate&quot; who actually has brains and probably uncomfortable with screaming down people therefore confined to shrug, eyeroll, or whatever non-verbal means of expression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I see it, Dibbell was the only one in the &#8220;debate&#8221; who actually has brains and probably uncomfortable with screaming down people therefore confined to shrug, eyeroll, or whatever non-verbal means of expression.</p>
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		<title>By: Ghiest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ghiest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could argue with myself better than those idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could argue with myself better than those idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 23:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freakazoid: Your job is to kill Julian Dibbell.&lt;br&gt;
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This must be done. It is your desssstiny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freakazoid: Your job is to kill Julian Dibbell.</p>
<p>This must be done. It is your desssstiny.</p>
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		<title>By: Freakazoid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freakazoid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both of them need to stick to better arguements.&lt;br&gt;
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Dibbell could&#039;ve better pointed out that MMO developers do not make envoirnments that are indicative of their rules, and that developers are terrible at enforcing their own policies. It&#039;s not his fault people WANT to be powerleveled!&lt;br&gt;
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Vederman didn&#039;t even bother to shoot down Dibbell&#039;s horrible example of MMOs being like crossword puzzles. It&#039;s easy to point out that, indeed, people ARE competing against eachother: for virtual space to level up and earn loot! Gold farmers can effectively control a large portion of the best spaces and eliminate any chances for real gamers to enjoy the content. All progress can be prevented and all forms of earning currency and items become restricted, possibly to the point that it becomes a necessity to buy from farmers.&lt;br&gt;
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Damnit, they should&#039;ve put ME on the show! I&#039;d put these guys to shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both of them need to stick to better arguements.</p>
<p>Dibbell could&#8217;ve better pointed out that MMO developers do not make envoirnments that are indicative of their rules, and that developers are terrible at enforcing their own policies. It&#8217;s not his fault people WANT to be powerleveled!</p>
<p>Vederman didn&#8217;t even bother to shoot down Dibbell&#8217;s horrible example of MMOs being like crossword puzzles. It&#8217;s easy to point out that, indeed, people ARE competing against eachother: for virtual space to level up and earn loot! Gold farmers can effectively control a large portion of the best spaces and eliminate any chances for real gamers to enjoy the content. All progress can be prevented and all forms of earning currency and items become restricted, possibly to the point that it becomes a necessity to buy from farmers.</p>
<p>Damnit, they should&#8217;ve put ME on the show! I&#8217;d put these guys to shame.</p>
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		<title>By: VPellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>VPellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 10:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, those guys really are pretty poor debaters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, those guys really are pretty poor debaters.</p>
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		<title>By: Xyntar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xyntar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 02:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just can&#039;t get over that some people actually watch G4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just can&#8217;t get over that some people actually watch G4.</p>
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		<title>By: Apache</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apache</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 01:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another reason why live media isn&#039;t a good mix for videogames.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another reason why live media isn&#8217;t a good mix for videogames.</p>
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		<title>By: Aufero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aufero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 23:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the WoW ToU: (the one you can&#039;t play the game without agreeing to)&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;i&gt;Blizzard Entertainment does not recognize any property claims outside of World of Warcraft or the purported sale, gift or trade in the &quot;real world&quot; of anything related to World of Warcraft. Accordingly, you may not sell items for &quot;real&quot; money or exchange items outside of World of Warcraft.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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That&#039;s pretty explicit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the WoW ToU: (the one you can&#8217;t play the game without agreeing to)</p>
<p><i>Blizzard Entertainment does not recognize any property claims outside of World of Warcraft or the purported sale, gift or trade in the &#8220;real world&#8221; of anything related to World of Warcraft. Accordingly, you may not sell items for &#8220;real&#8221; money or exchange items outside of World of Warcraft.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s pretty explicit.</p>
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		<title>By: GreyPawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreyPawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]People who\&#039;e2\&#039;80\&#039;99ve demonstrated they won\&#039;e2\&#039;80\&#039;99t respect an explicit contract are not my first choice as partners in games that involve implied social contracts.[/quote]&lt;br&gt;
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By explicit contract, I take it you are referring to the overwhelmingly broad End-User License Agreement?  Precious few MMOs actually include sections specifically defining exclusion of RMT in these, and the majority of them are so broadly interpretted as to border hilarity.&lt;br&gt;
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Take a good long read of the WoW EULA sometime.  Some of the sections in there could be easily interpretted as expressly forbidding any modification of the user-interface, which is a part of the &quot;Game&quot;.  Section 4 could be interpretted as a prohibition against nearly all comprehensive WoW fansites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]People who\&#8217;e2\&#8217;80\&#8217;99ve demonstrated they won\&#8217;e2\&#8217;80\&#8217;99t respect an explicit contract are not my first choice as partners in games that involve implied social contracts.[/quote]</p>
<p>By explicit contract, I take it you are referring to the overwhelmingly broad End-User License Agreement?  Precious few MMOs actually include sections specifically defining exclusion of RMT in these, and the majority of them are so broadly interpretted as to border hilarity.</p>
<p>Take a good long read of the WoW EULA sometime.  Some of the sections in there could be easily interpretted as expressly forbidding any modification of the user-interface, which is a part of the &#8220;Game&#8221;.  Section 4 could be interpretted as a prohibition against nearly all comprehensive WoW fansites.</p>
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		<title>By: slog</title>
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		<dc:creator>slog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds good to me.  If players really cared about RMT, they wouldn&#039;t pay 180 bucks a year to play games with RMT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds good to me.  If players really cared about RMT, they wouldn&#8217;t pay 180 bucks a year to play games with RMT.</p>
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