Comments on: OMGZ NET NEUTERALITY WILL KILL US ALL!!1!

By: oliver

oliver — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:21:58 +0000

“” That’s how capitalism works.

As long as you can keep the government from messing everything up in the name of “protecting” the consumers, of course. Which is usually very hard to do, indeed, especially thanks to consumers that don’t understand how markets work. *sigh*”"

Yeah, regulation is so bad that lack of it only costs the taxpayer a trillion dollars in artificial life support now and again to keep the “infallible” market alive.

Like a damn vampire.

By: Andrew Crystall

Andrew Crystall — Mon, 04 Dec 2006 11:24:53 +0000

TPRJones, thing is in many counties, it’s impossible – legally – to bypass the existing companies like that and in others I’m sure we’d see what amounts to expensive junk lititagation aimed at crushing any startup who challenged the existing players.

Again, remember that I’m not against premium deals, I’m against artificial degrading of services.

Satelight internet is also NOT suitable for gaming :/

By: Yunk

Yunk — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:38:53 +0000

wait a minute..

so their solution to having to pay fees to ISPs is… to pay (bribe) ISPs so they can upgrade their networks and stay neutral.

um… yeah…

By: TPRJones

TPRJones — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 23:14:49 +0000

Exactly, Schlecht. You make my point for me.

The status quo means those monopolies will maintain control in perpetuity. The only way to get rid of them is to free up the market so competitors can improve the marketplace through inovation. The regulations currently in place to “protect the consumers” do no such thing, they protect the monopolies by discouraging – or in some cases outlawing – competition from more efficient companies that can introduce affordable and improved alternatives to the marketplace.

By: Schlecht

Schlecht — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 22:05:09 +0000

Oh come on, it is purely wishful thinking to believe that monopolies and other anti-competitive operations fix themselves.
The market couldn’t even stop factories from killing off their own workers with lead poisoning. How the hell is it supposed to deal with the relative subtlety of anti-competitive practices?

By: Muzadi

Muzadi — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:05:08 +0000

I worked in the mobile game industry a few years ago, and one of the major problems there was that if you were not one of the major players, it was virtually impossible to get on the deck of one of the major carriers.

This is the bigger problem I see with artificial strangling of the network – the big players like Blizzard would if need be pony up, but the smaller players would be in serious danger of not being able to pay what the premium bandwidth was being charged for. A strangling of the creative landscape is not something I would personally be inclined to look forward to.

By: TPRJones

TPRJones — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:35:53 +0000

TPRJones, there are effective monopolies in many areas of many counties. Some legislated, too. And sorry, but you can\'e2\'80\'99t wave your hand and create a new infrastructure overnight

Absolutely correct, and if I implied otherwise I apologize. Things would be messy for a few months to as long as a couple of years, this I admit. But it wouldn't last longer than that before someone has stepped up and implemented something very interesting. The technical problems are already mostly solved, what is needed is the whip of the marketplace to spur someone into action to use new technologies to benefit the marketplace. And with the current situation, that whip has been withheld a bit more than it should be.

It's the only way those monopolies will ever come to an end. Regulating a monopoly "to protect the consumers" only makes it more difficult for others to compete in that area and bring that monopoly to an end.

By: Andrew Crystall

Andrew Crystall — Tue, 28 Nov 2006 05:23:36 +0000

On the linked Terranova article. (Or similar).

And no, I think the projected fee structure you’ll be paying an ISP under their future plans is quite clear…

By: bullet

bullet — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:45:30 +0000

Andrew:
Where, exactly, did you say this? Either provide a link or explain, please.

By: Andrew Crystall

Andrew Crystall — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:47:20 +0000

As I said elsewhere bullet...

$40 for the base connection. $10 for games. $20 for streamed video. $30 for bittorrent.

Yea, only a few..oh.