Comments on: Space/Game Development Is A Cruel Mistress

By: Staarkhand

Staarkhand — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:58:34 +0000

Don’t bother acknowledging others’ points even enough to present refuting arguments, just counter with another unrelated, unsubstantiated acusation. After all, everyone who doesn’t agree with you is either insane or has a sinister agenda.

Did Jack Thompson take over these Eve comment threads?

By: Danny

Danny — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:23:39 +0000

About the t2 bpo… Well he made public that he cheated about the bpos. He spawned/or manipulated the lottery to get 10 t2 bpos >

By: kedaha

kedaha — Sat, 10 Feb 2007 05:36:40 +0000

The hacker wasnt a goon, the hacker had hacked goon forums several times previously and had/has absolutely zero connection with the goons.

If you still insist on thinking differently, feel free to post some evidence instead of spouting off crap.

By: Andrew Crystall

Andrew Crystall — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:04:43 +0000

The hacker is a goon. The people who brought it to public attention are goons. Goonfleet exploited.

I’m not whining. Goons are, plain and simple, bad for a MMO.

If “the reason they may not participate are legal” is too complex for you, and you can’t ebven be bothered to read reasoning (including that you’d create the very situation you decry of lottery bias by biasing it against the devs – unless you also want to argue that they shouldn’t do invention, which has NOTHING to do with the lottery, frex….)

But I know complex reasoning is typically beyond goons, shrug (Why do I hate goons? It’s called experience of dealing with them).

By: Calenth

Calenth — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 13:47:06 +0000

Oh quit your whining, Crystall. I like how you keep trying to somehow make rampant GM & developer corruption in BoB a Goonfleet issue.

If “people who run lotteries, for assets worth tens of thousands of dollars, shouldn’t compete in and win those lotteries” is too difficult a concept for you to grasp, there’s not much point in arguing with you further.

By: Andrew Crystall

Andrew Crystall — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 13:09:31 +0000

So they should what… bias the lottery? That’s the very thing that they’ve been accused of in other ways. ANY bias is wrong. Or, what, artifically limit the participation of the devs in an area of the game?

How the HECK do you think they can judge subjective complaints about the lottery without participating in it? (And frankly, it’s fine and allways has been).

If you have proof of a CCP employee engaging in RMT…present it. Because there is no such evidence, frankly, and you’re whistling in the wind. The concern about lotteries is because of real-world gain, and trying to translate it into untaxable (currently) virtual-world only transactions does not hold water.

Goon, go home. Moral relativism is a specality – every last member should of been banned allready for the cache hack. Then again, consorting with hackers seems to be another speciality of yours.

Lecture others on ethics when your hand are not dripping blood. Even if you had a point, which you do not.

By: Calenth

Calenth — Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:46:47 +0000

Even presuming there was no explicit misconduct and the developer’s character obtained the t2 bpos legally within the confines of the game, there are a host of ensuing issues.

Primarily among those issues is the issue of conflict of interest. No company in the world that runs a real-world-dollar lottery lets employees participate in said lottery. Yet here we have an employee of CCP winning a lottery for items that have a real-world dollar value in the thousands and possibly tens of thousands. The very participation in the lottery, by itself, represents an impermissible ethical conflict.

So saying “he could’ve gotten them legally” misses the point. Either way, he failed to adhere to necessary ethical standards merely by participating in the lottery at all.

By: Andrew Crystall

Andrew Crystall — Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:44:18 +0000

Amusing..he’s made it so you have to register. So not.

By: Andrew Crystall

Andrew Crystall — Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:41:43 +0000

Comstar, re-read the emails. Only 1 people in BoB knew about the cap ship commander , and that’s because he’s also a RL game dev (lead designer, Rockstar North to be precise).

The other incident with the emails…they are RL friends. So yes, he knew his RL friend was working for CCP. Again, can’t get excited.

Also, if you want to bias the lottery then you are just validating the bias calls. It MUST be random – and BPO’s ain’t that rare.

Also Eve has a lot of Icelandic players, soo

By: Evangolis

Evangolis — Sun, 04 Feb 2007 19:56:01 +0000

I can’t agree, entirely. The guild leadership game is an experience unto itself, and really one of the most vital from the perspective of the health of a guild-based PvP game. I don’t think I could have understood SB as well if I hadn’t had low level officer experience. Maybe a dev shouldn’t take the top spot, but they definitely need to have some experience with guild leadership.

Although how they would have time to do that and their job is hard for me to fathom.