Comments on: Bragg v. Linden Settled http://www.brokentoys.org/2007/10/05/bragg-v-linden-settled/ Random Comments About Gaming And Tractors Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:52:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Legal Battles in Virtual Worlds | SpaceChannel.TV | Blog http://www.brokentoys.org/2007/10/05/bragg-v-linden-settled/comment-page-1/#comment-11196 Legal Battles in Virtual Worlds | SpaceChannel.TV | Blog Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:45:24 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2007/10/05/bragg-v-linden-settled/#comment-11196 [...] reading a sufficient number of game blogs.  Here's the scoop from Linden Lab, Game Politics, Lum, Nic Suzor, Reuters, Raph, Ben Duranske... Syndicated [...] [...] reading a sufficient number of game blogs.  Here’s the scoop from Linden Lab, Game Politics, Lum, Nic Suzor, Reuters, Raph, Ben Duranske… Syndicated [...]

]]> By: Nobody Fugazi http://www.brokentoys.org/2007/10/05/bragg-v-linden-settled/comment-page-1/#comment-11192 Nobody Fugazi Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:47:57 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2007/10/05/bragg-v-linden-settled/#comment-11192 Geez. I wrote about the effects on virtual property extrensively and how this case would be full of interesting stuff on Your2ndplace.com and KnowProSE.com and *predicted* a settlement. Were you all responding to internet trolls or something? Geez. I wrote about the effects on virtual property extrensively and how this case would be full of interesting stuff on Your2ndplace.com and KnowProSE.com and *predicted* a settlement.

Were you all responding to internet trolls or something?

]]> By: jjc http://www.brokentoys.org/2007/10/05/bragg-v-linden-settled/comment-page-1/#comment-11194 jjc Fri, 05 Oct 2007 19:17:50 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2007/10/05/bragg-v-linden-settled/#comment-11194 I don't think that if this had went to trial and decision that it would have done anything towards ownership of virtual lands since that wasn't really what it was about. The court case was about EULA, the ToS and the manner in which LL recalled a sale of an item without refunding the money behind that sale. Saying "we aren't going to sell this to you because you broke the rules but we are going to keep your money" is going to get you in trouble every time. Companies that sold virtual items for real cash would then have to start refunding, on a pro-rated system perhaps, an item they sold to a person that they were going to ban. I don’t think that if this had went to trial and decision that it would have done anything towards ownership of virtual lands since that wasn’t really what it was about. The court case was about EULA, the ToS and the manner in which LL recalled a sale of an item without refunding the money behind that sale. Saying “we aren’t going to sell this to you because you broke the rules but we are going to keep your money” is going to get you in trouble every time. Companies that sold virtual items for real cash would then have to start refunding, on a pro-rated system perhaps, an item they sold to a person that they were going to ban.

]]> By: Benjamin Duranske http://www.brokentoys.org/2007/10/05/bragg-v-linden-settled/comment-page-1/#comment-11193 Benjamin Duranske Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:41:23 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2007/10/05/bragg-v-linden-settled/#comment-11193 I'm working on it - until somebody can shake comments out of one of the players, there's not much to say. I am disappointed it didn't go further -- at least to summary judgment, so the court would have had to weigh in on the bigger issues -- but that is exactly what Linden Lab wanted to avoid. Also, Bragg had noticed Philip Rosedale personally for a 7.5 hour video deposition that was going to take place in the near future. I suspect that the prospect of that video leaking (it almost certainly would have) also provided some motivation. I’m working on it – until somebody can shake comments out of one of the players, there’s not much to say. I am disappointed it didn’t go further — at least to summary judgment, so the court would have had to weigh in on the bigger issues — but that is exactly what Linden Lab wanted to avoid. Also, Bragg had noticed Philip Rosedale personally for a 7.5 hour video deposition that was going to take place in the near future. I suspect that the prospect of that video leaking (it almost certainly would have) also provided some motivation.

]]> By: xaldin http://www.brokentoys.org/2007/10/05/bragg-v-linden-settled/comment-page-1/#comment-11195 xaldin Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:11:46 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/2007/10/05/bragg-v-linden-settled/#comment-11195 I'm rather sad that this wasn't carried into the courts to finish. I honestly am looking forward to the courts to wade in and make decisions on who owns the toons and such. Unlike Lum I don't believe it's a bad thing. Of course anyone in any industry looking at regulations chokes up and goes chicken little but if one looks at the big picture this will have to be decided by courts with attendant government eventually. The virtual world business is not a special little snowflake. I’m rather sad that this wasn’t carried into the courts to finish. I honestly am looking forward to the courts to wade in and make decisions on who owns the toons and such. Unlike Lum I don’t believe it’s a bad thing. Of course anyone in any industry looking at regulations chokes up and goes chicken little but if one looks at the big picture this will have to be decided by courts with attendant government eventually. The virtual world business is not a special little snowflake.

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