This far, I haven’t seen a game yet that I liked enough to convince me to upgrade my computer.

To return to AoC, the core is solid, but they decided to wrap so much blarney around it that it lost all credibility shortly afterwards. The post-Gaute era is going to be decisive as to what happens with this game.

Still, it has fundamental flaws — no working economic/crafting design, too much instancing, ganking near resurrection points (last I heard at least), no customization, clunky interface, etc. And, unlike advertised, no end game.

So guilds jumped to WAR. But I’d be curious to see how long they will be willing to endure faction imbalance, the lack of personal/guild stakes, and the repetitive nature of the game.

If I want some mindless grind only to take part in an instanced war scenario I can play over and over again, I’ll stick to Navy Field; at least it’s free and since it makes no qualms about putting ships of various nations together, faction imbalance isn’t an issue.

And if AoC, when I last played (late June/early July), looked empty like a shopping mall on a Wednesday morning, WAR looked like it was the same mall at 2 AM, and this was mere days after release on the most populated Oceanic server. Outside of a guild, the game just seems lifeless and encouraging self-reliance.

Give WAR a month and then you will see the threads complaining about it on gaming forums; in fact it has started already.

AoC I played for six weeks; WAR held my interest for six days. That should account for something.

AOC has succeeded to combine all those negative qualitys! in one game ,which i think is a sucess in his own right, but joke aside ,after leveling to 80 and almost completing my T1 set for my necro ,getting my fast horsey and doing some not so fun sieges, someday i just uninstalled this abomination and cancelled my account.

During this time War was out but i didint jumped right away just waited to hear other peoples opinions and after 3 weeks i decided to give a try.

Now that i am working and dont have time for heavy raiding War is the ultimate online game i have ever seen ,its fun, almost everything working only after 3 weeks, you can join the game anytime for raiding and find a battle.Pve is not as strong as in others game but let me tell you this you cannot do all quests in all realms becasue your level will be too high eventually ,meaning; you will find quests twice than you need to reach next level, and whenever you start a new race all scenery wıll change and you have two factions ,this will give you 6 completly different start..tortage must be renamed torture..

And about great! graphics of AOC, thats total bullshit, everything looks grey and brown , yeah i saw some nice scenery on distant horison now and then ,but who gives a shit if your chracter look like wearing patato sack at lvl 80 wearing epics, WAR graphics are MUCH BETTER! i cannot stress this enough ,good graphic doesnt mean realistic graphic,good graphics sooth your eyes ,look bright and fun and give eye candys where you look most and in graphic depertement WAR is way ahead of AOC ,just give it a try if you dont beleive it.

And what about all credit card mistakes! funcom did, hundreds if not thousand people complaing about their credit cards getting charged after they cancelled their accounts and still not one word of explanation from funcom, such a great company, oh btw i playing WAR for 10 days or so and i still didint gave my credit card information ,becasue they DONT ask for any credit card information until your free one month is over..

I just cannot beleive there are some people still playing AOC…

Regarding the “maturity” of tits and blood. Yes, not only was AoC *not* mature, it was in fact more immature than a game which would have left them out.

And in response to Wanderer: The problem, I think, is that the kindergarten crowd is sexually precocious these days (don’t pigeonhole me into the “moral conservative” camp, though; I despise them), and a game like AoC caters to them even more than a game without tits and guts would.

I will tackle the larger question of AoC in another post; I have to reread some of the comments posted above first.

And in response to Wanderer: The problem, I think, is that the kindergarten crowd is sexually precocious these days (don’t pigeonhole me into the “moral conservative” camp, though; I despise them), and a game like AoC caters to them even more than a game without tits and guts would.

I will tackle the larger question of AoC in another post; I have to reread some of the comments posted above first.

I left for several reasons. One, of course, is that the economy (what there was of it) was borked, tradeskills were borked (especially how training them depended on random drops from resource nodes, some of which turned out to have been, um, left out … cottonwhisp, anyone?), the cost of buying enough bag space to carry your loot was prohibitive, the lack of bank space was ridiculous, etc. Another was that the devs seemed to be flailing around randomly trying to do something, but weren’t quite sure what. My main’s class got randomly nerfed and buffed every patch, to the point that it should have been renamed “Yo-Yo”. Instancing everything was a stupid idea. When I to to Old Tarantia, I expect to find a crowded, bustling city — not a ghost town with 10x as many NPCs as players. Grouping was rarely worthwhile; you spent more time trying to get your group assembled in the right instance than actually doing anything. If you disconnected (which happened at random) you’d log back into a different instance, usually one with a fresh batch of mobs all over you. Every patch seemed to introduce two new bugs for each one it fixed, like randomly breaking bits of the UI.

The constant gold spam, apparently condoned by Funcom since they could have prevented most of it very easily, drove me mad. When I logged in, I’d have dozens of offline messages from gold spammers flooding my screen, and I couldn’t find my tradepost sales under the mass of spam in my mail. The lack of any easy way to travel between areas was bad. When players are spending more time traveling to places to have fun than they are having fun, that’s a game breaker. (especially when quests make you run across multiple zones over and over)

The last straw was trivial, but it broke this camel’s back: They cut the price of mounts, which had been obscene, but didn’t refund anything to those of us who had scrimped and saved every bent tin piece to get them. If you didn’t play AoC this doesn’t sound like a big deal, but it was; it was a very big deal. Way to go, reward the slackers and punish the hard workers.

It wasn’t the worst launch I’ve ever endured; that was Shadowbane. If they ever fix the game, and offer me a free month or something, I might go back.

don’t launch unfinished product. sit down and play it once in a while, and if it doesn’t work, don’t put it on shelves asking for money for it.

seems simple?