Rituals Of The Betrayed

I have seen a lot of layoffs these past few years.

I have survived a number of them.

I have fallen to a few of them.

I have talked to far too many friends, on the phone, through email, through IM, over beer, watching them tear up from the sense of failure and betrayal.

Too many. Goddamned too many. In a sense, it’s easier when it’s you.

I am tired of watching impotently as my friends fall to yet another corporate earnings report and mandated change in direction and any other euphemism you care to use for “we screwed up and are damned if we’re ever going to take any responsibility for it”.

There is a deadly rhythm developing to these horrible events. The drumbeat of rumors weeks prior, the dead look in the eyes of the people who know earlier and can’t say, the worry in the eyes of everyone else as they furtively check networking sites and job listings and send emails on their private accounts.

It’s always the same. Always the fucking same.

And the people responsible – no, not the managers who actually have to wreck people’s lives up close and in person, but the higher-ups who actually made the screwups that led everyone to the cliff – they’re Out Of The Office. Off To Meetings. Not Here Today.

Responsibility. It’s a nice long word, rolls around in your mouth. Says a lot. Isn’t said much, in any way meaningful.

The part of the ritual that always gets me? The Official Statement. There always is one – the people in charge of PR can’t just let it go (or else they might be let go themselves!), they always have to weigh in with the usual Our Hearts Will Go On malarkey.

And that’s why it always gets me. Because it’s always something to the effect about how “these unfortunate events” weren’t really critical. It’s not important, those people we let go. They’re not that important. We didn’t really care about them, you see. It’s unfortunate, sure, but we have great things in store, just you watch! We’re not set back in any way, no sirree bob! Everything’s GREAT!

Everyone knows it’s what companies say – everyone knows it’s what companies have to say.

And it’s the final act of betrayal. That final kicking dirt on the guy as he heads out the door with his action figures and Best Employee Of The Year trophies in a box that was helpfully set out in the hallway the night before. Because it’s not enough that you let that guy go after he gave his all for your bottom line, it’s not enough that you had to force him out into an economy that is anything but welcoming. No, not only did you wreck his life and reward his loyalty with a pink slip and a packet about COBRA coverage, you then got to announce to Teh Intertubes that in the grand scheme of things he wasn’t really that important.

You know what? Everyone reading those releases knows it’s a ritual. And it’s a ritual that sucks. It’s IMMORAL. It lies. It lies to your customers, your stockholders and the employees that remain in fear of their continued livelihood.

It’s the final gratuitous act of betrayal. It always happens. And it always sucks.

I remember when I had one of those *on the radio*. I had been let go from a dot-com company in mid-collapse, in 2001, and escorting my shocked and awed arse out the door was a press release that said that those let go were “underachievers”.

Thanks, guys! I’m sure that’ll look good on my job application. Underachiever Class of 2001. Way to reward working long hours and surviving layoff after layoff and wondering when I’d be the next.

Corporate loyalty is a LIE.

Maybe someday I’ll be in a position to change that.

Or maybe I’ll just keep impotently raging into chat windows.

  • Iconic

    How would you do it differently if you were the suit that screwed up?

  • Juan

    I really hate it too, especially the shroud of secrecy when people get fired singly or as a group. I just don’t know what to do. If I was a manager what would I say? “Sorry, I look at you and five others and decided you were the one least worth keeping.” Then I get sued! Apparently you can get sued for telling the truth, or having a real reason to fire someone. Being laid off is even worse because the reason is “I had to reduce count and you weren’t high enough of the good chart.”

    I also don’t understand how blanket layoffs help. Everytime I seen layoffs up close, its always hurt us in productivity and we either hire newer people to make up for it and have to train them, or we just work harder and make a less quality product until we finally get some more hires through the freeze. And then the new people have the same potential for issues as the old people, only to be found out again closer to crunch time.

  • Crask

    Letting people go is never fun, or pleasurable.

    And some of that cheer leading has to be done. If things are bad enough you have to make cuts then you damned sure have to shore up your employee base that you have left to keep them from jumping ship. There is a trend these days to blame executives and management for everything, without the acknowledgment that making the decision and the execution of layoff isn’t exactly fucking easy either.

  • http://ansonthegnome.livejournal.com/ Matthew Weigel

    No, layoffs are not easy. But eventually, you expect the people doing them (after, say, four rounds of layoffs in a single year) to FIGURE IT OUT.

  • http://playervsdeveloper.blogspot.com Green Armadillo

    It’s probably no consolation, but the customers and stockholders aren’t exactly fooled by the lies. At some point, it actually does become a problem for the company if its PR statements are viewed with the seriousness of the latest dispatch from Comical Ali.

    You’re looking at the company trying to decide whether it’s worth the continued investment (make no mistake, players in persistent worlds are making decisions about investing time and monthly fees in their characters, even if they don’t think of it that way), and all you’ve got to go on are the latest press releases. When a company chooses to abuse its credibility like this, they’re degrading the value of the only information that people have to go on.

  • tannenburg

    There is a special sort of Hell in being laid off and then finding out your job position has been posted for hire on the HR Web page. Of course it’s for less money – meaning they wanted to replace you with someone cheaper…like you’re a spare part which needs switching out because it’s old and worn out.

    Happened to a friend of mine…my layoff was because the business “grew away” from the business model under which I was originally hired.

    Layoffs suck any way you slice it…someone, somewhere, decided you’re useless. No amount of cotton-candying it up changes that fact.

  • Iconic

    The one thing that stood out to me with the Mythic “press release” from MJ was:

    You hired a bunch of employees whose only supposed purpose was to get you through the launch period, and so you laying them off isn’t really a sign of anything being wrong.

    Okay, then let me ask you this: Did those people know, when they were hired, that their positions were likely temporary? I don’t mean in the abstract sense that most employment is “at will” and temporary, I mean in the sense that some one actually told them before they were offered and accepted the position, that it was a temporary position with the potential to be permanent.

  • damn you, capitalism!

    I’ve known my termination date (march 31) since mid November. The hilarity is that the purchasing company axed most of the executives, with the exception of the one guy who many here feel is most responsible for our downfall. Him, they promoted. Maybe it’s just coincidence that he happened to work at the purchasing company several years before coming here.

    I hope one day you are in a position to change that. I also hope that by the time you get there, you will still want to change that.

  • Iconic

    “The hilarity is that the purchasing company axed most of the executives, with the exception of the one guy who many here feel is most responsible for our downfall. Him, they promoted. Maybe it’s just coincidence that he happened to work at the purchasing company several years before coming here.”

    Actually that sounds a lot like conspiracy. Get a mole into a competitor, undermine them from within, and then pick the carcass when they die. Buy up their assets and clientele cheaply and reward your agent for a job well done.

  • Bleaktea

    I used to work with someone who’d survived rounds and rounds of layoffs – ninja corporate layoffs, the kind where one day your security pass doesn’t work, so you go to the front desk and ask for a temp one, and find out right there – standing in the lobby – that your pass doesn’t work because you’ve been fired.
    The bad times came around again, and he started jumping at every shadow. One day his pass didn’t work when we all scanned in and he just went white as a sheet – it turned out to be a technical glitch, but it still scared him.
    Eventually he closed up all his projects and quit, rather than sit around and wait for the axe to fall. (Well, and a bunch of other reasons, but sitting in Waiting To Be Fired mode didn’t help).
    In the end there were no layoffs from our section. It still bothers me that people live in fear of losing their jobs – suddenly and without preamble – because someone’s Excel spreadsheet doesn’t balance.

  • http://www.dopass.com Snipehunter

    There’s more to it, too. I mean the survivors of layoffs feel really bad about what happened… at first… but thanks to the way the whole thing is spun, they quickly come to believe the hype and the good people that got laid off become the bad people that were the problem in the first place, right? It’s a coping mechanism, I think.

    I wrote about it, last time I was involved in major layoffs (http://dopass.com/cursethedead)

  • http://rog.gameslate.com/ Rog

    To me, the problem here is the workings of the public corporation system. Ever since the ‘information age’ (I can’t seem to say that without sounding like some luddite, lol) that’s given everyone easy access to the stock market, more and more it’s become:

    Image > Everything else.

    It’s not even about turning a profit anymore, it’s more about whether that profit charts up each quarter, because that graph is the image that your stock may (or may not) follow.

    The current trend is to layoff employees, so every corporation will look at that option, regardless of whether it’s good for their company as a whole in the long term. Because it’ll look good to the investors to follow the trends. If they don’t, they won’t be seen as an agile company and their stock will drop. It even trickles down to privately owned companies, depending on whether their investors demand they follow the same trends.

    This is some kind of mob-rule messed up form of capitalism. How does anyone expect honest approaches to business anymore?

  • dartwick

    Umm welcome to life.

  • http://rog.gameslate.com/ Rog

    And yeah, I’ll agree, it’s easier to deal with when it’s yourself, rather than friends, family, etc..

  • Zuzax

    Often the “good” chart has nothing to do with it. Often it is the salary chart that is looked at before anything, so senior employees are the first to get shot because they help out the bottom line more by taking out a bigger salary. Often they have families and kids, which helps reduce the benefits costs.

    Often I have seen the good senior people (and have also been one of them) be let go due to “strategic restructuring” and “job elimination” and the morons and the inexperienced remain because they are cheaper on a fully loaded salary basis. Not a sound long term practice, but it gets the quarterly results up.

    I wonder how many layoffs are being committed not due to business need but just because such mercenary tactics can be blamed on the current economy. We’ll see how many companies have “surprisingly good” Q1 results after committing employment mass-murder.

  • yunk

    The only way you’ll ever “change it” is to change human nature itself. Get people to take responsibilty for their actions, get upper management to admit it’s their fault and to resign, instead of blaming it on their underlings.

    They say a good manager will take the blame not reassign blame under him, but all the good managers I’ve known who do that get fired as their reward.

    @Iconic wrote Actually that sounds a lot like conspiracy.

    No it’s just the way it works, over and over. Good networks who are BS artists survive. Besides also people keep people they know around. Good managers are let go during those times because you half to talk a good game UPWARDS, not inspire and empower employees DOWNWARDS. That doesn’t impress. Every single layoff or selloff of a department to another company has seen that exact same pattern. The craptastic managers we hate who keep interfering are kept around, the others let go.

  • yunk

    oh man I can’t spell today.

  • mystery

    Dude, I remember when you were laid off in 2001. I spammed your resume out to a number of headhunters I knew, and then hoped for the best.

    Then, a few months later, on the morning of 9/11, I got laid off myself. I was driving home thinking about my measly severance package and listening to my belongings clatter about in the complimentary box furnished to me on my way out the door — when the first plane hit the WTC. Looking back on it, I tried really hard not to be selfish, and not to lash out at my employer, but in reality, they were so caught up in making sure that their VC funding didn’t fall through because they just jammed up their lead developer, they couldn’t stop to let people go home from work that day.

    Fuck the suits.

  • http://www.therealstupid.com Stupid

    I work for a consulting company of about 300. Last week we laid off seven people. The President and CEO was present at every one of the layoff and he personally apologized to the people as they left the building. I saw him later that day and he was DEVASTATED. Seriously, the man looked like he had just been forced to kill a family member.

    He sent out a company wide email that told us all why those people were let go. We weren’t making as much money as we had hoped and something had to give. No one claimed that we were “trimming fat” or getting rid of under-performing people. It wasn’t even implied. And several of those let go WEREN’T underperformers – but they weren’t critical in critical positions either. The decision was based on who we could afford to lose, not on who was least needed. When you _have_ to lose a pound of flesh, wouldn’t you rather lose part of your foot instead of half or your heart?

    It’s still sad.

  • Delmania

    I had been considering re-uping my subscription, but this is the final nail in the coffin for me. Mythic has so mishandled Warhammer it’s not even funny.

  • http://crymore.de EpicSquirt

    Delmania :
    I had been considering re-uping my subscription, but this is the final nail in the coffin for me. Mythic has so mishandled Warhammer it’s not even funny.

    I agree. The Lead Designer should go first.

  • http://www.cesspit.net Abalieno

    Applause, both you and Sanya.

  • Brast

    Everyone agrees that layoffs are horrible things and creates very deep and negative emotions in everyone. But I disagree with the principle that this is automatically the “fault” of the suit in the plush corner office.

    Company A makes an improved widget that they expect to sell 1000 units during the year. Unfortunately they only sell 500 units. Clearly they are cheaters and liars if they do not choose to pile up their losses and go bankrupt instead of cutting their costs to match their revenue. Clearly there was some guy sitting in his ivory tower that screwed up and spit on the honest workers to save his own hide.

    Does that even make sense? This is capitalism. Companies succeed and companies fail. There is real money involved. Companies cannot just print more if their revenue drops. No one wants to lay people off and it is usually the last resort to cut costs, but the government cannot just take tax dollars and bail out every company that fails…. oh wait

  • terrarich

    I was let go last October in a similar fashion and with a notice spouting the hurrah nonsense about how nothing was wrong fundamentally and the higher ups were no where to be seen that week as the axing was made. We were just dead-enders — the last vestiges of a dying regime and what is turning out to be a dying company.

    I’ve spent a lot of time looking for a new job and even more replaying those moments in my head, doubt, despair, what to do, how to handle this and I’m still lost. Lot of this has motivated my thinking in the interviews I am doing and has hurt some of my confidence.

    My first job right out of graduate school and gone, several months of work and the most expendable. We live beneath a thin veneer of civilization and this is much like eating your young or throwing a Donner’s Pass Christmas party.

    Guess we ought to make an MMO about that.

  • http://www.nerfbat.com/ Ryan Shwayder

    Corporate loyalty is almost invariably one way–employee to employer. When it goes both ways, you usually don’t see any official statements about layoffs.

  • Angelworks

    Not to mention greed – hardly anyone connects how much executives at these companies make, and make the connection to the companies profitability.

    Fact is – from the earnings report – THQ didn’t lose any money, they are actually still profitable – they just earned less than they did before.

  • JohnMoore64

    There’s really nothing you can say to soothe or comfort anyone going through a layoff. I’ve been though the layoff twice, and everything said to comfort me sounded hollow and empty. And I’ve tried to comfort friends going through it, and felt shallow and trifling.

    It sucks, and it makes you feel like shit. The simple truth is that it will be a very bad experience.

    But another truth that is difficult express is that it will pass. There will be a new day. And, one way or another, things work themselves out.

    So, as trite as it sounds, if you are facing this, hang in there. Try an keep faith. Know that life will go on. And, maybe, it will take you in a totally unexpected, new, and good place.

  • Matt Mihaly

    Scott wrote:

    I am tired of watching impotently as my friends fall to yet another corporate earnings report and mandated change in direction and any other euphemism you care to use for “we screwed up and are damned if we’re ever going to take any responsibility for it”.

    I’m not sure what you mean Scott. Making the layoffs IS taking responsibility for the problem. Not taking responsibility would be just carrying on, sticking your head in the sand, and pretending there’s not a problem. It’s not as if lay-offs are easy for any executive I’ve ever encountered either. I barely sleep the night before I have to fire someone, and that’s for a DESERVED firing. I cannot imagine how bad it would feel to have to lay off a whole bunch of people all at once who haven’t done anything particularly to deserve it. Do you know what it’s like to have an employee break down into incoherent tears while you sit there and try to explain it’s not his/her fault but it has to happen anyway? It fucking sucks and it is not something one looks forward to.

    You’re sounding a bit here like the armchair quarterbacks you regularly take to task (like Tom Chick) here to be honest (no offense intended….we’ve all been there).

    –matt

  • http://www.brokentoys.org/ Scott Jennings

    Matt Mihaly :
    Do you know what it’s like to have an employee break down into incoherent tears while you sit there and try to explain it’s not his/her fault but it has to happen anyway?

    Yes.

    My issue is less with layoffs than with (a) the apparent trivialization of them in the corporate world as a way to pad the latest earnings report and (b) the apparent need lately, especially in our industry, to minimize their contribution publically on the day they’re let go.

  • Matt Mihaly

    Yeah, I agree, that’s lame and a betrayal of good people.

  • Kemor

    @Matt Mihaly
    Taking responsibility would be to check where it went wrong and try to fix it. If something went wrong in a company, you can be pretty sure it’s not gonna come from the bottom yet EVERY SINGLE TIME, you crop bottom first, and once in a while, at the top…

    The big issue here is that there is no apparent “rethinking” of the whole shee-bang. It’s just “ok let’s keep on doing the same, but with less people!”. That alone is stupid because you’re not solving anything, you’re just ignoring the problem!

    And that’s not just in the gaming industry but everywhere.

  • Calandryll

    Scott Jennings :
    My issue is less with layoffs than with (a) the apparent trivialization of them in the corporate world as a way to pad the latest earnings report and (b) the apparent need lately, especially in our industry, to minimize their contribution publically on the day they’re let go.

    And on top of that, there isn’t even a “thank them for their hard work” in these things. Not that that helps pay the bills or take away the sting of a layoff, but the fact that it hasn’t been there in a lot of these layoff announcements, while there is a lot of “we did awesome” stuff in them, speaks to the author(s) attitude towards these people.

  • http://smokingwires.blogspot.com/ Swader

    Companies exist to make money. That’s it. They don’t exist to create great products, and they don’t exist to benefit mankind. They are part of the free market and money is at the root of the free market.

    Honestly, to expect anything more altruistic than the most efficient accumulation of money is folly.

  • Matt Mihaly

    Kemor wrote:

    Taking responsibility would be to check where it went wrong and try to fix it. If something went wrong in a company, you can be pretty sure it’s not gonna come from the bottom yet EVERY SINGLE TIME, you crop bottom first, and once in a while, at the top…

    That’s because the bulk of the compensation goes to people at the bottom of the pyramid. The people at the top get paid more but there are a LOT more people at the bottom. Further, the people at the top are typically required, or at least their roles are. The company cannot function without someone fulfilling the CEO function, without someone fulfilling the CFO function, etc etc.


    The big issue here is that there is no apparent “rethinking” of the whole shee-bang. It’s just “ok let’s keep on doing the same, but with less people!”. That alone is stupid because you’re not solving anything, you’re just ignoring the problem!

    No, you are often solving the problem by cutting in this case. For instance, in Mythic’s case, the problem to be solved is that they were likely to be bleeding money without the cuts. There’s nothing to rethink. The game wasn’t as popular as they hoped, and wasn’t bringing in as much revenue as they hoped. That may or may not be anyone’s fault. Predicting what the public is going to want years in advance of giving it to them is very hard.

    As far as not rethinking what they’re doing, I’d suggest that you’re probably not in the Board room and are likely not privy to what I guarantee you are hours of soul-searching discussions among the relevant execs about what to do.

    I’m not sure what other magical solution you think they should have tried to fix the problem that results from spending more than you bring in. Enlighten me?

    –matt

  • http://rog.gameslate.com/ Rog

    @Swader: I’d argue that’s incorrect and part of the issue here. Corporations exist for shareholder value. Although that’s often linked to making money, it’s a short-term emphasis.

    In several of the cases of layoffs referred to here it has not been about profitability, but current economic trends. In other words, they’re making cuts because they’re expected to, and many of us would argue with the particular cuts that it’s more likely to hurt them financially in the future. But they don’t give one whit about the future, they’re looking at quarter by quarter.

  • Matt Mihaly

    Which isn’t, incidentally, to call the people further down the pyramid unnecessary by any means, but there is usually a lot of duplication of function the further down you go, because of the bulk of work that needs producing. If they couldn’t afford 20 world builders or whatever anymore, then they can’t afford it. The company as an entity does not hinge on having 20 world builders, even if it may hinge on having at least SOMEONE doing some world building.

    –matt

  • Matt Mihaly

    Rog wrote:

    But they don’t give one whit about the future, they’re looking at quarter by quarter.

    Well, they care about what investors (which includes your average American via mutual funds and pension funds) care about, and investors have shown they care more about short-term results. Makes me glad I’m not running a public company, but corporate management is, at least theoretically, doing what the shareholders tell them to do.

    (Incidentally, if you own even a single share of stock, when was the last time you attended a shareholder’s meeting to voice your opinion about the direction of the company? Most people don’t, but are happy to complain about how company’s are being run anyway.)

    –matt

  • http://gnomedepot.net Loredena

    Matt Mihaly :

    That’s because the bulk of the compensation goes to people at the bottom of the pyramid. The people at the top get paid more but there are a LOT more people at the bottom. Further, the people at the top are typically required, or at least their roles are. The company cannot function without someone fulfilling the CEO function, without someone fulfilling the CFO function, etc etc.

    I’m not sure what other magical solution you think they should have tried to fix the problem that results from spending more than you bring in. Enlighten me?
    –matt

    I can’t speak to the games industry in particular, but I can speak about large companies (of which EA at least is one) versus smaller ones. Large companies first few layoffs tend to target the bottom of the pyramid. It’s only after they’ve cut to the bone it seems that it occurs to them to target the middle layers. You’re right — you can’t really function without a CEO, CFO, CIO. But it’s a bit much when the worker bees are getting chopped while the 5-7 layers of middle management stick around… Especially when many (most?) of the problems can be blamed on decisions made by that management – -worker bees don’t tend to make the decisions that sink ships. We do tend to be the first off the boat when it starts taking on water though.

  • Matt Mihaly

    Loredena wrote:

    I can’t speak to the games industry in particular, but I can speak about large companies (of which EA at least is one) versus smaller ones. Large companies first few layoffs tend to target the bottom of the pyramid. It’s only after they’ve cut to the bone it seems that it occurs to them to target the middle layers. You’re right — you can’t really function without a CEO, CFO, CIO. But it’s a bit much when the worker bees are getting chopped while the 5-7 layers of middle management stick around

    I don’t have any idea what the composition of cuts at EA was recently, but I know it impacted lots of middle management because I’m getting a lot of their resumes across my desk these days (people 3 or 4 steps from Riccitello on the org chart).


    Especially when many (most?) of the problems can be blamed on decisions made by that management – -worker bees don’t tend to make the decisions that sink ships. We do tend to be the first off the boat when it starts taking on water though.

    Yep, that is true. Worker bees do not typically sink companies. On the other hand, management of an organization the size of EA is incredibly complicated and hard, and although the buck absolutely stops with management a lot of times what management “did wrong” is only apparent in hindsight, in which case it’s debatable whether any “moral” blame should accrue to them.

    –matt

  • Baktru

    Layoffs are one thing…

    The company I luckily just resigned from, because I got something new, shiny and probably better, announced on my very last day there that they are closing end June…

    Good luck to my ex-colleagues for sure. This is not the right time to end up jobless.

  • Merusk

    You speak of ‘years of loyal service,’ Scott. That’s the first mistake, and one I see time after time after time.

    Corporations have no requirement and no need to be loyal to you. You are a tool, a cog and nothing more. Always look out for your own interests, because you’re the only one doing so.

    Time and again over the last two years I, too, have watched people who worked for their builders for 5, 10, 15 years get laid-off. Different industries, same story. The sense of betrayal that always follows still baffles me. “What about my loyal years of service?” ‘Well, thanks for that but we need to move on and you aren’t necessary.’

    Loyalty is a fool’s game. Work for the check and keep an eye on the want-ads at all times. The best quote for the modern work force I’ve seen is, “We’re all independent contractors, even those who have ‘one employer.’ What that really means is your little business has one client, and if they decide to go elsewhere you’re in trouble.”

  • http://eatingbees.brokentoys.org Sanya

    Matt, I appreciate what you’re saying… but Mythic’s management represented itself as something different, so that’s part of the emotion you’re seeing. Also, with game industry layoffs, at least one of the comment writers/bloggers actually knows the victims, and is often in a unique position to judge whether or not those directly culpable took a hit.

    And… um, usually, especially in the first couple rounds… no. People on the inside know who had the title and who had the authority, and the two aren’t always the same.

  • Viz

    But, Sanya, part of being the problem is being unable to tell that you’re the problem. If the person in authority is the problem, it’s highly unlikely that he can recognize it, and even more unlikely that he’d resign because of it.

    This is one of the things that sucks about being human. There’s no reasonable hope that this will change.

  • Toastrider

    And this, ladies and gents, is why I work for a privately owned company.

    Although if I had any sense, I’d be an undertaker or own a funeral home. There’s ALWAYS a demand for caskets…

  • Triforcer

    A thought on the ridiculous press releases:

    Sometimes that comes from the boys in Legal. It doesn’t matter if a press release is laughed at by all who see it if it doesn’t say anything that’s damaging to a potential future legal defense. As a former federal court law clerk, I can say that when preparing a draft decision in wrongful termination/employment discrimination cases, public statements that undermine the company’s current (or desired) theory of the case are very damaging.

  • =j

    On the subject of boxes: I still have mine. I used it to schelp out my stuff back during my first (and thus far, only) layoff. I carry it with me to every job I have had since then. I keep it under the desk or tucked into a corner. It is a reminder that there is no such thing as loyalty.

  • http://printscreengg.blogspot.com/ scribbler

    Nothing anyone here i can say will make you or any of the other who find themselves out of work feel any better.
    All i can say is as a team you really did produce a good game and you should be proud of what you achieved.
    Ive been on the end of this sort of thing myself both in the past and recently and it never gets any easier.

  • http://forge.ironrealms.com Matt Mihaly

    Sanya wrote:

    Matt, I appreciate what you’re saying… but Mythic’s management represented itself as something different, so that’s part of the emotion you’re seeing. Also, with game industry layoffs, at least one of the comment writers/bloggers actually knows the victims, and is often in a unique position to judge whether or not those directly culpable took a hit.

    When a company fails because an executive took all the funding and ran away to Brazil, it’s clear who is culpable to everyone.

    Most of the rest of the time though, I’d suggest that the answer is not so clear cut, particularly when an entertainment product doesn’t achieve as wide acceptance by the public as was planned for.

    –matt

  • GreyPawn

    Ever notice how one company will announce layoffs and another company will raise their hand and echo the same? Is this collusion on the golf course, or mere coincidence? And why are they always nice, round numbers? Like 600, or 1,100, or 50? Wouldn’t it make more sense to prune for efficiency in areas that absolutely require it, to use a recently overpoliticized term and “use a scalpel instead of a hatchet”?

    Why do these announcements never follow a committed pledge by management, upper and middle, to accept a 10%-30% reduction in pay in order to continue work without slicing personnel too deeply? Wouldn’t a transition to part-time/contract or a phasing out period for the laid-off-to-be be less traumatizing to the whole company?

    When Disney’s VMK was closing, and I was forced to let go of 30 or so of my moderators, those dedicated souls that kept the game clean and safe for the kids, I resolved to get involved. Every day until the final curtain call, I set aside an hour after closing to work on finding my loyal moderators jobs. With a lot of luck and a few right words, most of them were picked up for contract moderation, and I’m proud to say that two of them went on to become Community Managers in their own right.

    Most of the woes in the the Rituals of the Betrayed could be avoided if management acted a bit more human and put themselves in the same shoes as the laid off. I did what I did because if I were in the shoes of my mods, I sure as freaking hell would want someone to help me out. Many of these peeps were paycheck to paycheck, struggling to make rent, an income meant to fund a stint in college or to offset medical bills. And not a one of them ditched me or a scheduled shift before the end.

    Management, both middle and upper, really need to bring dignity back to the way things are done. Everything is not the bottom line, no matter how capitalistic your bent. There IS a price in morality. If you end up a bad human being because you laid off a hundred, maybe a thousand people when you didn’t have to, you are absolutely going to have to pay the piper in karma. And if I am ever in the position to take a pay cut, or to cut back on bonuses or to trim the dividend or invest a little energy and save some people from the guillotine, god damn it, I will.

    Because that is what I would want someone to do for me.

  • Walter Yarbrough

    Matt,

    Seriously man, shut up.

    Many of the folks responsible for making and remaking WAR are now gone. And DAoC before that. And ID4 before that. And Spellbinder:Nexus Conflict.

    http://www.mythicentertainment.com/_site_files/images/history/1998.jpg – they lost one guy from here.

    http://www.mythicentertainment.com/_site_files/images/history/2002.jpg -
    and 3 more from that picture

    1998 to 2009 (or 2002 to 2009) is not employment to be dismissed as part of the ‘normal’ launch cycle of WAR.

    All of the folks responsible for the acceptance of WAR as an entertainment product are still there – and still celebrating the Russian launch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkNwGwlRP9w