Now I wonder if Blizzard really can innovate. And even more so, Tigole.

So far they were polishing and optimizing games like nobody else, but trying new stuff, something really new?

So far they always needed someone else to create the box, and then they made it a shiny box and reaped the benefits.

Bottom line, I hope that the infamous Tigole can get over his hardcore EQ raiding roots. Wisdom of age, call it whatever you want.

If they are going to deliver us World of Starcraft to push their next re-hash of a stone old formula, Starcraft 2, even more, well…

… if this again turns into gold and is a major success, I lose all fate in humanity.

Yes to the first and maybe to the second. The game I’m spending most of my time in now has PvP servers available but I don’t play on one. Although the game has PvP that’s not the whole point on my PvE server.

You seem to be missing the point. I know what PvP is; I’m not a dullard although I sometimes act like one. Amp wants a game where people are free to be dicks. Fine. I’m just pointing out that many of us don’t want to put up with dicks and in a world of choices we don’t have to.

I really don’t care what happens on PvP servers or 0.0 space in Eve. People can gank, spawn-camp, teabag, trash talk, what ever. I don’t give a $hit because I don’t play there. When I occaisionally feel the need for PvP I fire up my Planetside account and provide cannon fodder for the 8 people still playing till I come to my senses.

ROFLMAO! The whole point of pvp servers and games with PVP is to KILL PEOPLE!! If it was always “fair” then no one would ever be killed since most people hate getting killed.

Also the reason “ganking” “spawncamping” etc. is allowed is specifically because it is not fair! It makes the game more realistic.

REAL LIFE is not fare at times, and because this is true, it will also be true for most games. (People tend to flock twords things that aren’t fair. If everything were fair and easy no gaming company would ever make ANY money)

I think you’re SOL. Early in the development of SWG, Raph Koster had a system called ‘outcasting’ that let victims of PKers drastically reduce the future ability to PK freely. The PK types complained bitterly and it never made it very far let alone into the game.

People like me [victim] aren’t interested in being part of your ‘viable and legitimate’ game style. The only ‘just’ way of enabling it is to make it consensual; segregate the dicks from the rest of us and let you do whatever you want to each other. Since that is very common in mmos, and its not satisfactory to you I think you’ll have to play a game with a significant chunk of FFA PvP like Eve or Darkfall [assuming it actually releases].

There is no system that can be designed that can force people to be victims for the dicks of the world, we can just go to many of the other games availble.

UO allowed you to do pretty well do whatever you wanted and anyone else also. Which usually lead to people being dicks.
After 10 years are you telling me you can’t come up with a system that still allows this bad behaviour (which is obviously a viable and legit game style like it or not) yet allows for some sort of justice also?
Gimmie a break.

Have fun in your MMO mold. Electric tape holds “F” buttons down well but leaves black marks.
Let me know when someone takes a chance and makes a “fun” game again.

Chances of that happening are virtually zero, but some one is going to make a Shadowrun MMO at some point and if it’s not Blizzard, there’s a really high chance of it being bad.

Also, Vivendi basically has their pick of any IP they want. Although Blizzard could come up with their own, it would make more sense if a major IP that is currently available (say Marvel) gets the nod (and Vivendi did have that license at one point, so it isn’t unthinkable).

Regardless: the entire MMO industry holds its breath on what the new title will be.