Comments on: RealID For Your FakeOrc http://www.brokentoys.org/2010/07/06/realid-for-your-fakeorc/ Random Comments About Gaming And Tractors Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:52:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Cenota http://www.brokentoys.org/2010/07/06/realid-for-your-fakeorc/comment-page-2/#comment-31465 Cenota Tue, 13 Jul 2010 14:02:22 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/?p=4586#comment-31465 My problem with this RealID jazz in or out of the game, is that as a female player, I've been on the receiving end of some very nasty (and I do mean nasty with un-solicited explicit pictures) sexual harassment, when a ex-guildmate discovered my then "real" email address. Blizzard my have "opt-ed out" on the forums RealID bad idea, but there is still the issue of in game RealID AND the friends-of-friends thing. I've already implemented the child-proof option and I do hope this takes care of the privacy problem. My problem with this RealID jazz in or out of the game, is that as a female player, I’ve been on the receiving end of some very nasty (and I do mean nasty with un-solicited explicit pictures) sexual harassment, when a ex-guildmate discovered my then “real” email address.
Blizzard my have “opt-ed out” on the forums RealID bad idea, but there is still the issue of in game RealID AND the friends-of-friends thing.
I’ve already implemented the child-proof option and I do hope this takes care of the privacy problem.

]]> By: James Jones http://www.brokentoys.org/2010/07/06/realid-for-your-fakeorc/comment-page-2/#comment-31464 James Jones Thu, 08 Jul 2010 15:03:57 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/?p=4586#comment-31464 It does sort of put the final nail in the coffin for the RP in MMORPG, doesn't it? Not that it's been seeing much use these days anyway. I won't be using any Blizzard products anymore, either. Not because my real name is particularly important (I'm using it here just for the heck of it), but because it's MY goddamn choice to reveal my name or not and Blizzard can stuff it if they think I'll let them take that choice away. -TPRJones It does sort of put the final nail in the coffin for the RP in MMORPG, doesn’t it? Not that it’s been seeing much use these days anyway.

I won’t be using any Blizzard products anymore, either. Not because my real name is particularly important (I’m using it here just for the heck of it), but because it’s MY goddamn choice to reveal my name or not and Blizzard can stuff it if they think I’ll let them take that choice away.

-TPRJones

]]> By: Aethraen http://www.brokentoys.org/2010/07/06/realid-for-your-fakeorc/comment-page-2/#comment-31463 Aethraen Thu, 08 Jul 2010 13:33:48 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/?p=4586#comment-31463 The problem (well, one of many) is that fundamental to Facebook and things like RealID is the premise that "the idea you should should choose to present something other than you is fundamentally flawed". Isn't that the whole idea behind World of Warcraft? You're choosing to create a fantastical version of yourself (or not of yourself at all) and present it to Azeroth and the broader WoW community. I am not three feet tall nor do I have pink pigtails, and I don't shoot arcane magic out of my hands. But that is how I present myself in WoW and how I wish to continue presenting myself to the vast majority of the world in relation to the game. When you take the rule that 'you must be you' and try to apply it to a community that for the most part is pretending not to be themselves, you're going to have friction. The problem (well, one of many) is that fundamental to Facebook and things like RealID is the premise that “the idea you should should choose to present something other than you is fundamentally flawed”. Isn’t that the whole idea behind World of Warcraft? You’re choosing to create a fantastical version of yourself (or not of yourself at all) and present it to Azeroth and the broader WoW community. I am not three feet tall nor do I have pink pigtails, and I don’t shoot arcane magic out of my hands. But that is how I present myself in WoW and how I wish to continue presenting myself to the vast majority of the world in relation to the game. When you take the rule that ‘you must be you’ and try to apply it to a community that for the most part is pretending not to be themselves, you’re going to have friction.

]]> By: Ingmar http://www.brokentoys.org/2010/07/06/realid-for-your-fakeorc/comment-page-2/#comment-31462 Ingmar Wed, 07 Jul 2010 23:52:38 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/?p=4586#comment-31462 I put this in the previous thread accidentally:   <a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/zeroday/2010/07/07/is-korean-law-driving-policy-at-blizzard/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/zeroday/2010/07/07/is-korean-law-driving-policy-at-blizzard/</a>   It appears that Blizzard is required by law to use something like RealID in South Korea, which probably explains why they're rolling it out for SC2 first. If battle.net is really one big giant integrated system, they may have an issue being able to apply separate rules to the South Koreans without giving them a way around it by using a US account, which would then be illegal under South Korean law? If I'm guessing right they chose "apply it to everyone" instead of "rebuild our back end entirely so South Korea is a separate system entirely". Who knows really, but I thought it was interesting. I put this in the previous thread accidentally:
 
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/zeroday/2010/07/07/is-korean-law-driving-policy-at-blizzard/
 
It appears that Blizzard is required by law to use something like RealID in South Korea, which probably explains why they’re rolling it out for SC2 first. If battle.net is really one big giant integrated system, they may have an issue being able to apply separate rules to the South Koreans without giving them a way around it by using a US account, which would then be illegal under South Korean law?
If I’m guessing right they chose “apply it to everyone” instead of “rebuild our back end entirely so South Korea is a separate system entirely”. Who knows really, but I thought it was interesting.

]]> By: Sneaky http://www.brokentoys.org/2010/07/06/realid-for-your-fakeorc/comment-page-2/#comment-31461 Sneaky Wed, 07 Jul 2010 23:46:43 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/?p=4586#comment-31461 This announcement promted me to cancel my account for good.   I value my anonymity, at least to some degree. I don't -want- to be -me- when playing games or talking about them. And that's without ever trolling/harrassing someone purposely. This announcement promted me to cancel my account for good.
 
I value my anonymity, at least to some degree. I don’t -want- to be -me- when playing games or talking about them. And that’s without ever trolling/harrassing someone purposely.

]]> By: jnfr http://www.brokentoys.org/2010/07/06/realid-for-your-fakeorc/comment-page-1/#comment-31460 jnfr Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:40:34 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/?p=4586#comment-31460 I went into my own account and turned on parental controls for my child self so that Real ID is off in-game. Stupid money-grubbing corporations. Thrakin hit their motivation on the head in the first comment. I went into my own account and turned on parental controls for my child self so that Real ID is off in-game. Stupid money-grubbing corporations. Thrakin hit their motivation on the head in the first comment.

]]> By: Brad http://www.brokentoys.org/2010/07/06/realid-for-your-fakeorc/comment-page-1/#comment-31459 Brad Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:42:42 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/?p=4586#comment-31459 Just the other day, I was signing up as a developer for a certain other company, and I was required to choose an alias to use for their developer's forum to protect my privacy.  It's amazing the contrast between that and RealID. I guess it's now officially at the point where you could have more privacy at work than at home.  :(   Just the other day, I was signing up as a developer for a certain other company, and I was required to choose an alias to use for their developer’s forum to protect my privacy.  It’s amazing the contrast between that and RealID.
I guess it’s now officially at the point where you could have more privacy at work than at home.  :(
 

]]> By: hitnrun http://www.brokentoys.org/2010/07/06/realid-for-your-fakeorc/comment-page-1/#comment-31458 hitnrun Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:22:21 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/?p=4586#comment-31458 Actually, the comparison isn't even fair to Zuckerberg. Facebook, at least, is a network for people who know each other in real life. What Blizzard is doing is at least as outrageous and contemptible as Facebook making available your paladin's name, race, and spec on your Info page.   Actually, the comparison isn’t even fair to Zuckerberg. Facebook, at least, is a network for people who know each other in real life. What Blizzard is doing is at least as outrageous and contemptible as Facebook making available your paladin’s name, race, and spec on your Info page.
 

]]> By: A Man In Black http://www.brokentoys.org/2010/07/06/realid-for-your-fakeorc/comment-page-1/#comment-31457 A Man In Black Wed, 07 Jul 2010 18:50:56 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/?p=4586#comment-31457 >(and quite a few geldon-centric posts do not.) Fair enough. >(and quite a few geldon-centric posts do not.)
Fair enough.

]]> By: Idealist http://www.brokentoys.org/2010/07/06/realid-for-your-fakeorc/comment-page-1/#comment-31456 Idealist Wed, 07 Jul 2010 18:36:31 +0000 http://brokentoys.org/?p=4586#comment-31456 Here's more great news. Do you have a WoW account? Well apparently you've already opted into the RealID system by default, because you're a RealID friend of yourself. http://www.wow.com/2010/07/06/security-flaw-allows-addons-to-expose-full-real-life-names-witho/ Happily, your info is also available to malicious addons! Here’s more great news. Do you have a WoW account? Well apparently you’ve already opted into the RealID system by default, because you’re a RealID friend of yourself.
http://www.wow.com/2010/07/06/security-flaw-allows-addons-to-expose-full-real-life-names-witho/
Happily, your info is also available to malicious addons!

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